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From: "Robert Dabell" <robda@cogs.susx.ac.uk>
To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com
Subject: MEDPlayer Library
> Robert, why don't you share your code on using the MED library with
> us? I think that would help alot of us out....
OK then, I'll get it onto the network here tomorrow and post it then. The
code is just an example of using the library for _standard_ modules (MMD0 or
something like that), a doc file, and the library module, but hopefully
that'll be what you need.
Later...
Robert
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Date: Mon, 28 Feb 1994 12:46:00 GMT
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From: vaald@westminster.ac.uk
To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com
Subject: Re: More questons about Gadtools.
The amiga is screaming out for standardisation and embellishment. Macs are
easy to use not because they are nice, or good hardware, or even
worthwhile, but because there is logicand consistency and a little FLAIR
to them. When the mac desktop has a programme running, it is ghosted out
on the desktop. When you scroll around a window full of programmes, they
may read off disk slow, but they don`t flicker... THEY SEEM A LOT MORE
_SOLID_ and reliable.
Interfaces are nice to use. They will not let you make dumb mistakes,
like choose two incompatible settings simultaneously. This is because
there is a lot more basis on real-world models. An example....
Remember MUI? :) Remember the nice little `paged` mode, where you could
select one out of a few pages using a cycle gadget? Now, on release 2
of MUI, Stefan has updated they cycler to use `tabs` like an address book.
The thing is, these two modes of working are NOT THE SAME. Internally,
sure, the difference between the two might just be a single flag (if
that). But to the user, they are quite seperate ways of viewing the
data. I am producing a program where you must pick one of three ways
of defining a colour, so there are three `pages` but each page will
have different gadgets and information, and the user can only select on
page to use. The `tab` gadget, even though MUI uses it like a cycle gadget,
is unsuitable-it gives the impression that all data is simultaneous,
and it is only the editing which can be done page at a time. The cycler
is more suitable here, as it only shows one page at a time, which the user
does not see so much as a choice, but as selection (am I making sense? :)
The gadget says, 'You have picked this mode of operation, and no other...
If you change me, I will cease to be and a different one will take my place`,
whereas the tab-selector says `I am a multi-faceted thing but you can only
see one part of me... If I had the space, all the (incompatible) elements
of me would become simultaneous (and so confusing)`.
I really need to be able to sketch and wave my arms about to elaborate
properly :)
Getfile gadgets are getfile images. Even if you have not seen it before,
it is square like the file requester, it is a picture of a file, there
is one image in the box as you must pick one file... You get my gist?
There is a lot more working in an image or gadget than you may think.
If you really are unsure how to gear something, look deep into how your
program works (page based, message based, interactive, ...), and look
for real-work examples. Stick-it notes, clocks, fuel gauges, fridge magnets,
screens, cables are all real-world solutions to the problem of showing
how things work in the most succinct, economical, accurate, and logical
way. Good software will integrate such devices into their user interface.
Great software will _make_ you want to try re-wiring it or slapping notes
all over it or pushing things about and re-arranging it. I can have
hours of fun with MUI_Prefs and the world-time gadget on the locale prefs
is wonderful! Not only do I give it input, but it responds, showing me
time zones all over the world! Now, that`s a gadget to die for...
Remember your intution style guide! Be bold!
And if anyone would like any help on their userr interface (or even want
it writing) please contact me, I would love to contribute!
UWP
(NB: I am _not_ trying to get at anyone! :)
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From: James Mckinney <mckinnej@emh.kadena.af.mil>
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Subject: Allocating Chip RAM
Have any of tried to build your own "busy" pointers? If so, how did
you do it? I see in the RKM that the data for the pointer must be in
chip RAM. Did you have to use AllocMem() to get the chip RAM or is
there another trick to use. Thanks.
Later,
Jim
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From: vaald@westminster.ac.uk
To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com
Subject: Re: More questons about Gadtools.
No-one is flaming anyone for using asterisks. :)
I might have got a little wound up, granted. When you work with a bunch
of computer geeks all day on macs, and when they mean to say `I need access
to a computer` they say `I need to do some type on an applemac (one word)`
and the amiga is constantly discounted by your ignoramus tutor because
`it isn`t standard` you too would want a little consistency for your
favourite (and heavily-invested in) machine.
Making _another_ font is _NOT_ a solution. Fonts are fonts, not symbols.
If it`s any use, should I try writing a bunch of PROCs that create
standard style gadgets and do some basic user-interface style events?
(and no, I`m not having a guilt trip... :)
UWP
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From: Donald Holman <gladiatr@access.digex.net>
To: AmigaE@bkhouse.cts.com
Subject: Re: Vector.Library
>
> I haven't used the library myself, but I've done plenty of 3d stuff in
> 68000... I can post my routines if anyone is interested...
>
> >Alex
Would love to see those routines, Alex. Thanks.
-Donald